i am kinda nervous ... i have to quote this guy for a design job ... and my dad is the one that sent him to me cause they company that was running his site stopped doing it ... no one knows how much they were paying ... i can't get access to the old site ... so i have nothing to work with here ... and it is making me nuts ... i don't want to undercharge him and wind up doing tons of work that i don't get paid for ... but i also don't want to gauge him on prices ... ahhhhh who know ... i just called him and left a message so maybe that will go somewhere ... maybe he can fill in some of the holes on this whole project ... we'll see ...